1. I feel like Charles and Erik get into these like, really lengthy debates in Irene's class whenever things are open to discussion and that Charles really enjoys this.
2. Is there a reason why Charles wouldn't have introduced Erik to Moira by the time the second mixer is happening?
oh my god yes. they totally would. and irene would try to gently bring the conversation around and then not so gently bring it around and then say, "gentlemen. you can discuss this in your office—or even in your apartment—but we're going to be moving on now." and when charles opens his mouth to say something, because he's totally the type of guy who would keep talking after the professor says no, she says, "really, charles. even though you're my advisee." and then charles finally looks abashed.
two reasons for it, neither of which is particularly good. the first is that it just didn't seem to come up. maybe he'd have introduced erik at the first mixer, but erik is really antisocial there and doesn't meet anyone that i can remember.
the second, from my pov at least, is that i didn't want them to really reconnect until charles' birthday, as i've plotted a lot of that around them reconnecting. because i am selfish and horrible. not a great reason, admittedly.
i don't know, i'm happy to rewrite as needed. i mean, if you think we should ax the entire scene with the "argument," which really isn't working at all, and instead have him introduce erik to moira at the second mixer with a comment about how it's crazy that they've never been in the same place at the same time, i'm okay with that. i just don't think that either of them would be comfortable having moira drop by either the office or the apartment yet, and those are the only places i can see it happening.
yes! I think she would allow it a little since they probably both make good points, it's just when it goes on too long/wanders anywhere off-topic that it becomes a problem. I kind of feel like Charles might be quiet the times when he gets the last word in? but then the other times he still tries to go on to say something.
have we come up with a concrete history for Charles and Moira? because I think we need to if we are going to have them knowing each other prior to the story? there are just a lot of times when I see Moira portrayed as the ex in a way that just doesn't work for me, and while I don't think you'd do most of the things other people do, I do think we need to figure out how they are around each other? (since I was considering having them interact in the first Charles story, but, uh, it sounds like that wouldn't work with what you're plotting?)
haha, yes, the constant wandering off topic would be a problem. but i also just think that she's uninterested in allowing them to dominate a discussion that way. i also kind of love the idea of erik really not talking all that much in class—unless charles gets him started. it's not even the last word, i think, so much as being able to finish his thoughts. i don't see him as particularly intellectually combative in that way. he doesn't care if he gets to talk last; he cares if he gets to express (to the best of his ability) everything he's trying to say.
and oh no, i didn't mean to step on your toes! i have to run out the door, but i'm happy to send you my thoughts in about half an hour, and we can hash out a backstory? and plot the friendship going forward. because i think you're absolutely right: we do need one.
this is a good point, too. you'll probably have to periodically remind me that this is a normal size school and not one where it's like, four people in a class.
no, it's okay! i just think we have completely different ideas about what level of friendship they're starting out at? and we should decide when they dated? (because like i mentioned before i'm more inclined to have them already be where they're kind of fine with each other, because i'm really particular about Moira? sorry! but yes, thoughts would be good.)
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Random thoughts:
1. I feel like Charles and Erik get into these like, really lengthy debates in Irene's class whenever things are open to discussion and that Charles really enjoys this.
2. Is there a reason why Charles wouldn't have introduced Erik to Moira by the time the second mixer is happening?
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two reasons for it, neither of which is particularly good. the first is that it just didn't seem to come up. maybe he'd have introduced erik at the first mixer, but erik is really antisocial there and doesn't meet anyone that i can remember.
the second, from my pov at least, is that i didn't want them to really reconnect until charles' birthday, as i've plotted a lot of that around them reconnecting. because i am selfish and horrible. not a great reason, admittedly.
i don't know, i'm happy to rewrite as needed. i mean, if you think we should ax the entire scene with the "argument," which really isn't working at all, and instead have him introduce erik to moira at the second mixer with a comment about how it's crazy that they've never been in the same place at the same time, i'm okay with that. i just don't think that either of them would be comfortable having moira drop by either the office or the apartment yet, and those are the only places i can see it happening.
Re: Logan suggestions
have we come up with a concrete history for Charles and Moira? because I think we need to if we are going to have them knowing each other prior to the story? there are just a lot of times when I see Moira portrayed as the ex in a way that just doesn't work for me, and while I don't think you'd do most of the things other people do, I do think we need to figure out how they are around each other? (since I was considering having them interact in the first Charles story, but, uh, it sounds like that wouldn't work with what you're plotting?)
Re: Logan suggestions
and oh no, i didn't mean to step on your toes! i have to run out the door, but i'm happy to send you my thoughts in about half an hour, and we can hash out a backstory? and plot the friendship going forward. because i think you're absolutely right: we do need one.
Re: Logan suggestions
no, it's okay! i just think we have completely different ideas about what level of friendship they're starting out at? and we should decide when they dated? (because like i mentioned before i'm more inclined to have them already be where they're kind of fine with each other, because i'm really particular about Moira? sorry! but yes, thoughts would be good.)