From my recollection, you were really concerned about them being awkward, but I didn't know you had problems with the backstory itself. Which is neither here nor there, because if you're having problems with it now, that's what matters :)
Moira is at least a year older than Charles in my mind. So during the Keg Race, she would be near graduating, which is part of the reason that she's run it for forever. My mental backstory from her, which I believe was from an early conversation that we had, but which I now can't find, was that she did a one-year masters or study abroad at Oxford and then returned to start her PhD the year before Charles.
I don't think they put it off so much as I think that Moira didn't arrive as early as they did. She's probably living in the same apartment as last year, and she's already moved into her office, doesn't need an introductory meeting with her advisor, doesn't need to go to these oreintation-type meetings, etc. (Additionally in my mental canon for her, and feel free to disagree with me, since it's just my head!canon, she's the only child of a single mother, and she likes to spend as much time at home with her mother as possible.) So in my head, she only just arrived around the time of the second mixer.
Look, if it's really not working for you, we'll scrap it entirely, no hard feelings at all! So don't think that I'm annoyed. :)
But frankly, if we're going to have Charles be really arrogant at Oxford, I can't even see her being friends with him then. Because the sense that I got from her in the movie is that she only barely tolerated him until he toned it down and started proving his worth. I can see Charles liking her as a friend, because Charles is easy, and he likes smart people, but I can't see it the other way around, unless she had a relationship with him like Raven did in the movie, whether she barely tolerated him when he was out doing his thing in bars but then was friends with him the rest of the time.
Yeah, and I may not have expressed myself as well with that. I think I thought you really wanted it to be part of their backstory so I was trying to accommodate? Which was why I was really emphasizing it can be there, but not awkward. Then I kept thinking of ways it didn't work for me. Sorry!
I'm okay with that for Moira. (I just don't want her to be too, too much older? Since then I have trouble seeing her with Sean.)
I'm good with that mental canon for her mother. and that makes more sense, but like I said, I was then kind of confused by her presence at the second mixer.
If you don't mind I think I'd prefer that? Because I feel like it would be easier than me trying to resolve backstory for them to work in my mental canon? :D?
Yeah, exactly that, too, which I was kind of thinking about. Maybe it can kind of be that they know each other from Oxford and then they become like actual, good friends while at our fictitious university? I kind of feel like it might be more IC that way? Because yeah, I totally see Moira as having zero patience for Charles doing his bar thing, and I think in my head I definitely see him acting that way, especially since he's just like, young, with an ego, and very smart? but he's really good when put into a mentor-y position, which I think he would be in more at grad school than undergrad (or at least more significantly), and that helps ground him, so he and Moira become better friends from there? (maybe like in the movie the first time they meet he drunkenly hits on her and she just shuts him down? but then they start to become closer friends more during grad school and such?) IDK, I think that fits in more with my characterization of both of them?
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Moira is at least a year older than Charles in my mind. So during the Keg Race, she would be near graduating, which is part of the reason that she's run it for forever. My mental backstory from her, which I believe was from an early conversation that we had, but which I now can't find, was that she did a one-year masters or study abroad at Oxford and then returned to start her PhD the year before Charles.
I don't think they put it off so much as I think that Moira didn't arrive as early as they did. She's probably living in the same apartment as last year, and she's already moved into her office, doesn't need an introductory meeting with her advisor, doesn't need to go to these oreintation-type meetings, etc. (Additionally in my mental canon for her, and feel free to disagree with me, since it's just my head!canon, she's the only child of a single mother, and she likes to spend as much time at home with her mother as possible.) So in my head, she only just arrived around the time of the second mixer.
Look, if it's really not working for you, we'll scrap it entirely, no hard feelings at all! So don't think that I'm annoyed. :)
But frankly, if we're going to have Charles be really arrogant at Oxford, I can't even see her being friends with him then. Because the sense that I got from her in the movie is that she only barely tolerated him until he toned it down and started proving his worth. I can see Charles liking her as a friend, because Charles is easy, and he likes smart people, but I can't see it the other way around, unless she had a relationship with him like Raven did in the movie, whether she barely tolerated him when he was out doing his thing in bars but then was friends with him the rest of the time.
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I'm okay with that for Moira. (I just don't want her to be too, too much older? Since then I have trouble seeing her with Sean.)
I'm good with that mental canon for her mother. and that makes more sense, but like I said, I was then kind of confused by her presence at the second mixer.
If you don't mind I think I'd prefer that? Because I feel like it would be easier than me trying to resolve backstory for them to work in my mental canon? :D?
Yeah, exactly that, too, which I was kind of thinking about. Maybe it can kind of be that they know each other from Oxford and then they become like actual, good friends while at our fictitious university? I kind of feel like it might be more IC that way? Because yeah, I totally see Moira as having zero patience for Charles doing his bar thing, and I think in my head I definitely see him acting that way, especially since he's just like, young, with an ego, and very smart? but he's really good when put into a mentor-y position, which I think he would be in more at grad school than undergrad (or at least more significantly), and that helps ground him, so he and Moira become better friends from there? (maybe like in the movie the first time they meet he drunkenly hits on her and she just shuts him down? but then they start to become closer friends more during grad school and such?) IDK, I think that fits in more with my characterization of both of them?